Tuesday, September 23, 2014

What is going on with Fast Roping from V-22's?


I've noticed the same thing in a few pics (this is from the SOCOM exercise Jackal Stone 2014)...the rope always ends up in a "slide for life" type position.

Is this by design?  Have they changed Fast Rope techniques and this is the preferred way now?  If not, is this a problem with the airplane?  I've noticed that the HRST Master doesn't seem to delay the Ropers and sends them anyway so what gives.

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  1. Downdraft from those big fans at low altitude is what it is, that and the desire to not be under that suicide machine.

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  2. Fast Ropping from MV-22 just sucks. As a HRST Mst, i shake at the thought of having to use them to insert. That person coming out of the bird, hes looking to have a bad day, he needs his leg over the rope to control his decent....really hoping he had some strong bi's , shoulders, and forearms

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    1. yep and that brings me to the second thing i've noticed. no one fast ropes with full gear from these planes. if you're going hollywood you can get away with just arms...add real weight and you MUST have legs and feet.

      but answer this for me. why would a HRST Mstr send a roper down when he sees the rope at that angle???

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    2. That is by design, it is a new technique to be used with the MV-22.

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    3. if this is by design then its sheer madness. it has not tactical utility and will get people hurt or worse killed.

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    4. I read an article about the crisis response concept that was being proved with IOC. You have the biggest buy go first and anchor the rope and everyone else continues afterwards. This helps move the infantry out of the worst of the rotor wash.

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  3. I bet the bird doesn't hover well and creeps forward, Rope man on the ground has to run against the wind to keep up, roper just gets caught in between.

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    1. That's my take. Probably are a bunch of reasons they don't want the Osprey to hover in one spot. From the risk of crap getting kicked up into the engine inlets, to not wanting to start fires underneath from the downward-pointing engine exhaust.

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  5. http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/article/20140923/NEWS04/309230040

    Solomon,
    You have to check out this link for the article the picture alone. It might just be the angle but he is up there.

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    1. yeah but he's on rappel. its not as fast as roping and you get more injuries. no one does that shit anymore if they can help it, plus you can't go with as much weight. all this hollywood stuff is nice but is it useful tactically?

      i don't think so...of course i could be wrong.

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    2. Whatever happened to landing and walking out the back?

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